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Post by rjxsapri® on Jan 23, 2005 15:38:38 GMT -5
In regards to my previous posts, I understand concerns over my ideas, but to be honest the U.S. is far from being a land of opportunity for the third world nations. Most people in third world nations would not be able to afford to live here, much less visit. The people who travers here through international flight have the money to pay a higher tax on their travel. And the I agree that the US is equally to blame for it's lazy policy on immigration. Yet we have more secure borders than almost any other nation. Thus, penalizing other countries for their lack of secure borders would stand to be justified. Granted I would not penalize the immigrants themselves just their governments. In doing so the US would also allocate funds to further secure borders and I believe other nations would follow suit, especially in contrast to paying very high penalties. Regardless my solutions are not a fix all, the truth is the US is in some serious financial trouble. The value of our dollar is actually worthless and I'm not talking market value. I'm talking in a sense that we do not have enough gold to stimulate the economy in the state of an economic collapse. Basically, if we all decided to cash in our paper bills for the gold they represent, we would not receive anything in return. The only real solution is a complete system collapse. We would need to eliminate all sense of greed and live upon a barter system of equality, free trade based solely upon community and individual needs. Well, what about the people who fly in and stay. Not all the illegal immigrants in here are Mexicans. There's people from all over Latin America, Europe and Asia that come here and then stay for longer than they are allowed. How could you charge other countries for that? There's no way they could control that. And if other countries like Mexico don't have secure enough borders, it's maybe because they don't have enough resources to secure them properly. Charging those countries more money would not help them to improve that security, it would make it worse.
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Post by Marccio on Jan 23, 2005 15:41:48 GMT -5
This is why I don't vote
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Post by SnakeFire on Jan 23, 2005 16:17:42 GMT -5
^I hate it when people say that. No matter how bad things get, I will never waste a vote. No matter who you vote for or what you vote for, the government will always find some way to screw you. I just look at the lesser of two evils, and this time, the lesser of the two lost...
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Post by Marccio on Jan 23, 2005 16:18:58 GMT -5
heh, your right. But I was just kidding. I can't even vote yet ;D
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Post by SnakeFire on Jan 23, 2005 16:21:20 GMT -5
^Well, most likely, the next presidential candidate on the republican side of things will be Jeb Bush. Most likely, Hilary Clinton may run for the next democratic presidential candidate. This will be interesting.
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Post by rjxsapri® on Jan 23, 2005 16:22:49 GMT -5
Hillary Clinton...wow...Jeb Bush...good god...
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Post by aika0 on Jan 23, 2005 16:24:31 GMT -5
LOL ;D I feel like I'm a presidential candidate now running against rjxsapri. Well, (said while looking over and shaking everyone's hand in the forum and kissing a few babies) my safe borders policy has considered your qualms and I appreciate your qualms, but rest assured; my policy considers the concept of immigration not just a problem of shared borders but of all national borders. I feel that anyone from anywhere (with the exception of individuals from legitimate third world poverty nations), caught with in this country illegally should be deported through due process unless proof is provided that such government actions would present danger to the immigrant. In cases of allocated deportation, the orginating country would be penalized. Regarding South American and Latin countries, the truth is they are not as poor as they are perceived. Their true economic problem is the majority of their government representatives whom are corrupt. Economic funds are pocketed in contrast to a healthier alternative of using them to re-vitalize their economies. It is not the United State's responsibilty to govern the people or funds of Mexico, Canada, nor any other nation. The people of other nations must learn to take control of their own government. If their nation is not hospitable they should consider pursuing political office to change such conditions. Until such responsibilty is take, foreign governments should be penalized for not maintaining hospitable conditions for their people. This is my safe borders policy. Thank you for your vote or lack there of.
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Post by Marccio on Jan 23, 2005 16:30:00 GMT -5
Not Jeb Bush!!!
Another Bush would be the death of the earth! Hillary Clinton?! The ice queen! Still, it would be nice to see a Female president.
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Post by SnakeFire on Jan 23, 2005 16:31:30 GMT -5
Anyone but another Bush, lol. ANYONE!!! ;D
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Post by Marccio on Jan 23, 2005 16:33:29 GMT -5
Amen!!!
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Post by rjxsapri® on Jan 23, 2005 16:34:17 GMT -5
Wow, I just found a way to keep aika0 active...make a political thread. Anyways, if we were to let other countries solve their political unrest by themselves, then the first think to do is leave Irak. I know it's not the responsibility of the US to take care of other nation's governments, but it has already assumed part of that responsibility by getting into many affairs of this kind. *goes behind the curtain to choke aika0* I would say more on this subject but I have to go earn my wages...
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Post by Marccio on Jan 23, 2005 16:37:53 GMT -5
rjxsapri vs. Aika0
Who will come out the winner?
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Post by YoshikiRose on Jan 23, 2005 17:15:17 GMT -5
Wait, where was I for this election?
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Post by Marccio on Jan 23, 2005 18:18:29 GMT -5
You were here of course.
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brollyuniverse
Super Saiyan
When all else fails....punch 'em in the balls!
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Post by brollyuniverse on Jan 23, 2005 18:31:14 GMT -5
I like Bush, there I said it.(and no pun intended) I guess that's because I'm what most liberals would call a radical conservative republican.
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