SaiyanSpirit
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Post by SaiyanSpirit on Apr 5, 2005 16:02:34 GMT -5
Suicide is one of the things that I don't even think about until I hear that someone commited suicide. People mostly commit suicide when they don't like something about themselves and they can't change. Its really sad when someone commits suicide for any reason really.
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Post by SSjin4Superraizen on Apr 5, 2005 17:14:19 GMT -5
Suicide is one of the things that I don't even think about until I hear that someone commited suicide. People mostly commit suicide when they don't like something about themselves and they can't change. Its really sad when someone commits suicide for any reason really. Yes it is sad and I feel for the friends and family but I tend to dislike the person that killed themselves.
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kingbrolly
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Post by kingbrolly on Apr 5, 2005 22:11:05 GMT -5
I don’t think suicide is bad or good. I’ve been extremely depressed before were the thought of killing myself has crossed my mind. but I was lucky enough to have my mum to help get me through to put that thought out my head and to get me out of my depression. But sadly some aren’t as lucky as I was and really don’t have any one to turn to like the man Shawsank redemptions he had no friends or family to turn to when he got out of prison and became depressed and unfortunately saw killing him self the way out of his depression and being lonely is one of the number 1 reasons people among other things. And in the case of people terminally ill I think they have a right to kill them self’s because they’re usually going through a lot of pain and they ‘re going to die any way. Its also probably better for the family as well because my Nan had terminal cancer and I had watch her suffer when puss came from body and watch the cancer literally eat her away until she was skin and bone. I think unless you’ve been same what a suicide victim has maybe gone through then you have right to call them a coward but until then don’t judge some one until you’ve walked in the shoes. Because the Jews who were sent to concentration camps ww2 I’m sure a lot of them probably would have killed them self’s if they had the chance and probably some of you to. So to answer the question I don’t agree with suicide but I don’t really disagree with it either.
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Post by whateversam on Apr 5, 2005 23:30:27 GMT -5
Heh. I think everyone's thought of suicide these days. I've had these thoughts to myself, especially a couple years ago. Fortunately, I lived through it, and tried being a bit of an optimist. I don't want to go into great detail about it, but it's when everyone hates you, everywhere you go, you don't even have a place to sit down and cry and move on. If you cry, people will think you're weird. You're entirely paranoid about everything around you. People are watching you. You can't cry, or they'll laugh at you... It was just the constant paranoia I had, I mean, I had nowhere to go to just...be myself. I suppose going to church, or the particular church I went to, helped me out of that stage. No one could judge you there, because they had some f*cked up lives, too. We had time there to just listen to music, talk to people, and sit down/lay on the ground/kneel/whatever and cry. And that got so much off my chest. But I've left church, and haven't been there in a while. And I still have dark times in my life, but I just laugh at it all. Church got me out of the hole, I'm the one keeping myself out. Suicide...is a horrible thing. You should only commit suicide if mini-Richard Simmons are flying out of your butt and they won't stop I agree with Fluffy on this a lot, and I also agree with the pll that realize it takes a lot of guts to kill yourself. Just imagen how Fluffy was. (I've been there as well) Now imagen that your life has been like that for at least as long as you can remember. You do not have any happiness in your day-to-day life, and sometimes you are so sad that you feel physical pain. (yeah I've been there too) All you want to do is cry let out the pain, but at the first sign of sorrow everyone around you calls you weak. At this poit most people welcome death as a sweet release from their life, if they can even call it a life at this point. Unless you have been truly depressed before (about a year or more) you're not going to understand this. I myself have been so very sad, over absoutly nothing, that my chest actualy hurt, physically hurt. I wanted to cry so badly, but couldn't. One look around my dark room and I can easily see sevreal sharp knives. Yes I pick up a knive, yes I cut, and it feels good it really does. At this point I'm thinking about killing myself, and I thnk about what it would mean. The thought of death is terrifying, but it's a welcoming thought compaierd to a life of such sorrow that I can't think stright. Killing yourself takes a LOT and most of the time it's harder then dealing with life, but when you are just that depressed it can bring a smile to your face. The thought of killing yourself really can bring a smile to your face when nothing els does. (or the thought of killing others) Commiting suicide isn't a sper of the moment thing, for most, you usally think about it day after day for months, to years, and even toy with the idea for an equal amout of time. When you are so depressed that you cannot find any joy in life, and have not for years, you like the idea you really do. Life just isn't worth is when you are that sad, and nothing you do helps. When I think of suicide I don't think of how stupid they where, or how much of a coward they must have been to not go on with life. I think of just how depressed they must have been in their day-to-day life, and try to understand how they felt before ending it all. I'm not trying to say suicide is a good idea, and I am against it, but I do understand why people would do it. I think everyone should try to understand both sides to a situation before stating their opinon.
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Post by SnakeFire on Apr 6, 2005 8:42:46 GMT -5
I won't say that I've had physical "pain", but I've had physical side effects, like losing 20 lbs...
Other than that, it was all mental and emotional...
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Geddy Lee
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Post by Geddy Lee on Apr 6, 2005 11:34:07 GMT -5
I've never felt long term saddness, partially because I am insane. So I dont know what people go through befor committing suicide. All I can say is, things will get better if you make them.
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Post by whateversam on Apr 7, 2005 0:01:03 GMT -5
I myself have felt physical pain form intense saddness. I myself never plan on killing myself, but once you understand why someone would it's hard to call them stupid, or a coward. Some might say "oh stop feeling sorry for yourself!" but the problem is your not sorry for yourself you are sad without reason, and there isn't much you can do about it other then drug yourself (legal, or not) and because of that a lot of people end up killing themselve. :/
I have had many close friends become so sad that they wanted to die, and did try to take their own lives while talking to me. I stopped the first person by pleading with them, but after that I just got pissed that they where going on about killing themselves, and asked why they havn't done it allready. >.> <.< Yes, yes it's heartless, but if they want to kill themselves I'm not standing in the way.
I wouldn't do it myself, but I do understand why someone would, and it is annoying when they come to me before they try to end it all. >.> <.<
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Post by SKJTapion on Apr 7, 2005 15:43:54 GMT -5
I do think that alot of people, mostly young teenage girls, talk about committing suicide for attention.
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Post by SnakeFire on Apr 7, 2005 17:34:06 GMT -5
About the whole thing with people who commit suicide being cowards for killing themselves...
I would have to agree. Keeping yourself alive, through the want of being dead. That's brave.
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Post by whateversam on Apr 8, 2005 0:02:55 GMT -5
I don't see how it could be "brave" to keep living a life that you cannot find hope in. It's not like it takes bravery to face the day-to-day crap in your life to deal with it. It may be brave to deal with social anxity each day, but at the end of the day you still don't see a point in dealing with it if you are depressed. It's mostly because of too much emotional pain that people kill themselves.
With physical pain it's easy to see the damge of a cut, burn, etc. and easy to deal with. You just take some pain killers, clean the wound, and wrap it up. It's not as easy to deal with emotional pain. When you are sad you can try to cheer yourself up, or wait till you are over it. The problem is that when you are depressed you may never get over it, because there isn't a reason for your sadness that you know of. You could be sad for hours, days, weeks, months, or years. Sometimes the only way to deal with it is to drug yourself, but that doesn't always work.
Dealing with these types of problems in life isn't a question of bravery rather a question of choice. The choice is in what why you will deal with it. Some fine natrual ways that work, others use drugs, some use a combination, many "get over it", and a few give up on it all and end it completely.
As for me I have been living through it and have, more-or-less, become dead inside. I have tried to take my life before, but the thought scared me too much and I stoped myself before I was dead. Life is rather boreing, and it sucks to rarely be happy, but it's life I'm use to it. How is it brave of me to live a boreing unhappy life instead of ending it if the thought of ending it scares me more then anything?
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Post by SnakeFire on Apr 8, 2005 5:50:11 GMT -5
Ok- I shouldn't have said brave.
But, it takes a lot more to keep on living, then ending your life. When you are in that state of mind, in wanting it all to be over, and you end it- that shows that you are easily persuaded into doing so. By yourself, of course. In living, you fight that urge- that want.
I would know- I've thought about killing myself in the past.
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Geddy Lee
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Post by Geddy Lee on Apr 8, 2005 9:36:48 GMT -5
Man, there arent any kinds of prescription drugs or illeagle drugs that heal emotional problems, they only make things worse, and last longer.
And I think this was said on an episode of CSI :
" the easiest part of living, is dying."
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Post by SnakeFire on Apr 8, 2005 11:00:41 GMT -5
^I've heard that from me... I will go and sew CSI now, for taking my homemade quote...
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Geddy Lee
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Post by Geddy Lee on Apr 8, 2005 11:24:07 GMT -5
^I've heard that from me... I will go and sew CSI now, for taking my homemade quote... Maybe I read it from you while watching CSI, Im not to sure where I heard it.
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