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Post by shadow on Mar 18, 2005 18:24:35 GMT -5
Not everyone knows how to customize it, or is too lazy, so what do they do? Pay others to do the work for them. Free stuff? HAHAHAHAHA Like that would ever happen in America. But your right , to buy a game, then buy things to complete the game seems like a ripe off. But they just want money Thats not what the online stores about. You dont have to buy things to finish games... Its all about community. The user community creates what lies in the online store. Each game should have its own online store for communities to create things for. They dont have to charge. I expect most things will be free. I personally think its a great idea as long as its thought out well enough. I also like the idea of using your own music in any game and how every Xbox 2 game will use Xbox Live someway or another.
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Post by Trunksangel79 on Mar 18, 2005 18:33:35 GMT -5
Eh...I hate to bring in the negative flow to this thread, but these specs over the Xbox 2 have been nagging at the back of my head for the past few days and I've honestly got to say...so far I'm dissapointed. I understand that Microsoft's main intentions this next crop of consoles is to bring in a profit, and defeat Sony in #1 ownership of the gaming market. I understand that Microsoft is trying to draft as many Japanese compaines as possible in order to strengthen its console's library. But what I don't understand is, why is the Xbox 2, Xenon, 360 or whatever...is so much weaker than its predecessor? Taking a deep analyzation of the Xbox 2 specs and info given by Microsoft reveals multiple proponents of error in Microsoft's Xbox 2 agenda. The hardware itself has practically no improvement over the original Xbox, other than graphic capabilities and online program. Following that the Xbox 2 pales in comparison. Here's a quick, and easily accessible table: Xbox I -Built in Hard Drive -Hard Drive use led tono requirement of memory cards. -Excellent graphical capabilities -Original Xbox Live program, revolutionary -4 Controller ports Xbox II- Hard Drive sold separately - Lack of Hard Drive addition results in a considerably weaker system for consumers. -Hard Drive may be required for backwards capability, if it is even offered at all. - Superior graphical capabilities - 2 controller ports - Xbox Live II, improved over orginal. But no radical evolution. After coming to those conclusions awhile ago, I realized that until there's some more notable changes brought to X360 by E3 or launch. This system is going to get, hardware wise trampled by the capabilities of it's inevitable rivals, The Revolution and PS3. Which are both incorporating bakwards compatibility in there consoles from initiation, possibly even better graphical capabilities (PS3 supposedly has the power to crush Xbox 2 hardware wise), a free-online Wi-Fi plan on Revolution, and possibly a much improved online plan from Sony. So in conclusion, I'm not trying to write off Microsoft as an immediate loser next-gen. Because, that conclusion would be inaccurate without any concrete facts. But I do see lack in improvements over the original Xbox. Compared to what Sony, and more in particular Nintendo are doing for there systems. Microsoft dosn't need to bring a revolution with there system, but they should at least offer a more improved unit from there first endeavor. What! You got to buy the hard drive. That's stupid. I thought a new system is suppose to be stronger then ,the last one they brought out? The Ps3 & new Nintendo is going to kill them.I think they are making some huge mistakes. ::)They are just being greedy trying to take advantage of us gamers.
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Post by shadow on Mar 19, 2005 6:45:49 GMT -5
What! You got to buy the hard drive. That's stupid. I thought a new system is suppose to be stronger then ,the last one they brought out? The Ps3 & new Nintendo is going to kill them.I think they are making some huge mistakes. ::)They are just being greedy trying to take advantage of us gamers. Firstly, thats a rumor. Also, how is it being greedy. Its the hard-drive that cost the most for Xbox which eventually resulted in M$ loosing money on the Xbox. This time around they are being more cost effective. Would you rather pay $350 for a new console or around $250? Also, i have heard 3 versions of Xbox 2 are to be released. A standard version without a hard-drive, an Xbox 2 with a harddrive, and then around the time of the PS3 launch, a third version which is basically and Xbox 2/computer. Also, PS3 and Revolution wont have a harddrive built in at all. At the most the will be optional if they even have them.
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Post by Trunksangel79 on Mar 19, 2005 16:16:09 GMT -5
Firstly, thats a rumor. Also, how is it being greedy. Its the hard-drive that cost the most for Xbox which eventually resulted in M$ loosing money on the Xbox. This time around they are being more cost effective. Would you rather pay $350 for a new console or around $250? Also, i have heard 3 versions of Xbox 2 are to be released. A standard version without a hard-drive, an Xbox 2 with a harddrive, and then around the time of the PS3 launch, a third version which is basically and Xbox 2/computer. Also, PS3 and Revolution wont have a harddrive built in at all. At the most the will be optional if they even have them. Oh Ok I didn't know.You have some very good pionts. I need to learn don't believe everything you read or hear. So 3 versions that's cool.I think I misunderstood,i feel stupid now. Anyways being the big gamer I'll probably get xbox2,PS3,& Nintendo Revolution.
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Post by ~*Hieislove*~ on Mar 19, 2005 17:56:10 GMT -5
I personally think its a great idea as long as its thought out well enough. I also like the idea of using your own music in any game and how every Xbox 2 game will use Xbox Live someway or another. I think its sh*t. Xbox live is one of the greatest ideas ever made in the gaming world.
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Post by shadow on Mar 20, 2005 6:45:45 GMT -5
I think its sh*t. Xbox live is one of the greatest ideas ever made in the gaming world. Why do you think its crap? I think its a great "optional" idea for users to exchange things. It adds to the community and keeps dated games alive. For example, i dont play on Halo 2 on Xbox Live anymore because i've played the same thing for 4 months. But with the online shop i could maybe get 1 free map every month for Halo 2 which would keep me playing. Its adds depth and life to old games.
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Post by ~*Hieislove*~ on Mar 20, 2005 13:42:23 GMT -5
If you brought the game you should of liked it from the start, no adding no more detail.
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Post by HLOCKE on Mar 20, 2005 15:05:55 GMT -5
Hmm...I don't believe most of that info is rumor. The stuff I typed out came straight from the Microsoft's GDC presentation, and usually when Microsoft speaks, they speak of the direct truth. The only thing that is up in speculation is the whole area of backwards compatability.
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Post by shadow on Mar 20, 2005 15:15:22 GMT -5
Hmm...I don't believe most of that info is rumor. The stuff I typed out came straight from the Microsoft's GDC presentation, and usually when Microsoft speaks, they speak of the direct truth. The only thing that is up in speculation is the whole area of backwards compatability. I have seen the full M$ GDC with J Allard and he didnt mention anything except the Xbox Live user-face for Xbox 2, so everything else is rumor. If you brought the game you should of liked it from the start, no adding no more detail. I only buy a game if its amazing, but after a certain length of time, you have to move onto the next game and this online shop is to help lengthen that phase.
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Post by ~*Hieislove*~ on Mar 20, 2005 15:34:55 GMT -5
I buy games no matter what, if there good then o.k, if there bad I fuss A true good game should stay "amazing" forever.
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Post by HLOCKE on Mar 20, 2005 23:18:25 GMT -5
I have seen the full M$ GDC with J Allard and he didnt mention anything except the Xbox Live user-face for Xbox 2, so everything else is rumor. I only buy a game if its amazing, but after a certain length of time, you have to move onto the next game and this online shop is to help lengthen that phase. So then was that whole article IGN had up just rumors, or something. Because now I'm getting confused...
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Post by ~*Hieislove*~ on Mar 21, 2005 9:29:35 GMT -5
We will actually just have to wait. Isnt that hard -_-
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Post by shadow on Mar 21, 2005 10:44:24 GMT -5
So then was that whole article IGN had up just rumors, or something. Because now I'm getting confused... Which article? Are you on about the "everything you need to know about Xbox 2", if so then its all rumors they have collected together trying to make sense of it all.
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Post by ~*Hieislove*~ on Mar 21, 2005 11:05:23 GMT -5
If its all rumors then how do you know about xbox 2.
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Post by shadow on Mar 21, 2005 12:44:02 GMT -5
If its all rumors then how do you know about xbox 2. All i know are the rumors, my own predictions and the very few official facts. Later today i'll make an Xbox 2 thread and include everything i know. Then we can discuss futher.
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