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Post by gokuromario on Feb 6, 2005 17:51:41 GMT -5
actually i'm pretty sure thats wrong.
you see piccolo and goku's power levels were both over 400 in the start of z, and that was them relaxed, there maximums were round about 1300 each, these guys could have been about 1000 easy each in the DB series
remember when they were both fighting and their energies created a ball of aura around both of them, well thats cause there power levels had reached over a certain limit.
heres what i think the real totals were.
goku-70 db start, 130 db 1st tournament, 170 after drinking the sacred water, 2-300 next tournament, 600 after drinking the chu shin tswi, 1000+ maximum last tournament
yamcha-50 start of db, 100 1st tournament, 170 next tournament, 250-350 end
tien-1st appearence 150 when meeting goku, 2-300 by the 2nd tournament, 300-400 end
chautzu-120 2nd tournament, 180 next tournament
krillen-60 start, 100 1st tournament, 160 next tournament, 210 last tournament
toa pai pai-150 first appearence, 180 last tournament
master roshi-100 first meeting, 400 beefed up, 150 first tournament, 200 by next, last tournament could have been 150
piccolo-(old one) 300 old, 400 young, 500 beefed up, (new picollo) 150 as kid, 1000+ maximum last tournament
ox king-about 100 first meeting since we never seen him fight
bora-120 first appearence
yagerobi-200 first appearence, 220 next tournament
chi chi-60 first time round, 150 older
anyway thats about it, if you dont agree with me then that fine
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Post by rjxsapri® on Feb 8, 2005 15:26:10 GMT -5
Geez guys, it's pretty obvious...Roshi was able to destroy the freaking moon...Mr. Satan had to struggle to break some tiles, and almost had a heart attack tearing apart a phone directory...
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Post by Geddy Lee on Feb 8, 2005 16:29:26 GMT -5
Roshi would definitly win, Hercule would not stand a chance
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Post by SuperTien on Feb 9, 2005 19:53:30 GMT -5
Out law I like your Powerlevel Ideas.
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Post by Son Goshin on Feb 10, 2005 21:51:10 GMT -5
roshi would floor mr satan! ;D it'd be a hilarious fight to watch too. the frail roshi kickin the champ's a$$ ;D
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Post by Chop on Feb 11, 2005 20:26:10 GMT -5
Geez guys, it's pretty obvious...Roshi was able to destroy the freaking moon...Mr. Satan had to struggle to break some tiles, and almost had a heart attack tearing apart a phone directory... That's what I was thinking through the whole time I read this thread. I know every1 has to acknowledge powerlevels and such but 1st think about it, thats what I think anyway. Is Chi-Chi actually more powerful than Hercule? I havent really watched any DB eps, 4-5, but I never knew she was known as having a powerlevel. She did battle Goku in that tournament though didnt she? Did Goku beat her big time or what? Coz in DBZ she just psyhces up (spell?) Anyway Roshi would kick Hercule's a$$!!! Cya
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Post by Mafioso11 on Feb 12, 2005 18:29:40 GMT -5
naw, goku didn't really have trouble with beating chi chi, but d*mn she was strong (getting trained by the ox king and all). getting trained by someone who was trained by master roshi is almost like gettin trained by roshi himself (well...sorta). anyway, if chi chi were to fight hercule in the end of db, she would kik his ass. but in z she wasn't much of a fighter (except in the end when she trained goten...i guess that being trained by someone who was trained by someone who was trained by the roshi is also a good thing ;D). my point is chi chi could beat hercule, and so could roshi, and so upa, cuz mr. satan is a weakling . (i was kidding about the upa part, well he probobly could as an adult since he said he would try his hardest to get to goku's level and would practice climbing korin's tower every day until he reached the top, so when he grew up, i bet he could win in a fight against hercule .
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Post by TheDarkPrince on Feb 13, 2005 13:38:55 GMT -5
actually i'm pretty sure thats wrong. you see piccolo and goku's power levels were both over 400 in the start of z, and that was them relaxed, there maximums were round about 1300 each, these guys could have been about 1000 easy each in the DB series remember when they were both fighting and their energies created a ball of aura around both of them, well thats cause there power levels had reached over a certain limit. heres what i think the real totals were. goku-70 db start, 130 db 1st tournament, 170 after drinking the sacred water, 2-300 next tournament, 600 after drinking the chu shin tswi, 1000+ maximum last tournament yamcha-50 start of db, 100 1st tournament, 170 next tournament, 250-350 end tien-1st appearence 150 when meeting goku, 2-300 by the 2nd tournament, 300-400 end chautzu-120 2nd tournament, 180 next tournament krillen-60 start, 100 1st tournament, 160 next tournament, 210 last tournament toa pai pai-150 first appearence, 180 last tournament master roshi-100 first meeting, 400 beefed up, 150 first tournament, 200 by next, last tournament could have been 150 piccolo-(old one) 300 old, 400 young, 500 beefed up, (new picollo) 150 as kid, 1000+ maximum last tournament ox king-about 100 first meeting since we never seen him fight bora-120 first appearence yagerobi-200 first appearence, 220 next tournament chi chi-60 first time round, 150 older anyway thats about it, if you dont agree with me then that fine It's hard to say, because no-one's exactly sure how power levels worked. However, Goku and Piccolo couldn't have been at 1300+, because Radditz was only at 1200. Those power levels we see are only the result of special techniques. Goku and Piccolo couldn't have sustained them while fighting, because if they could they would have trounced Radditz. They can raise their energy by focusing it all into one spot (i.e. in a Ki attack) but their power levels while fighting were around 450 at the absolute most. Roshi and Hercule are at a similar level while fighting, but Roshi would win because he can focus his Ki. Your average human being could probably do some decent damage if they could focus their energy.
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Post by SuperTien on Feb 13, 2005 19:38:33 GMT -5
A grown man has a level 5 of ki flow through the body. (Radditz scouter didn't rate the farmer on the fact he had a shotgun , it was on his flow of ki thorugh his body)
During Radditz fight, Goku and piccolo where around 400-500's ki max.
But they can master an attack and gather ki through their body in to an energy ball or in a specific part of the body. Thats why Piccolo was around 400 ki and made a 1,400 ki blast in his special beam canon. And also why Goku's Kamehameha is around 1,000 ki.
So I wonder what master Roshi's Kamehameha wave is ,since he is the master.(he did blow up the moon) Since he is proabaly around 200-300 ki while he is super is Kamehameha should have been as strong as goku's durning the fight of Radditz.
Chi-chi ,I think Chi-chi should have been taught how to fly and form ki into attacks. I mean she was the daughter of the great Ox king one of the strongest humans on earth at the time.( He supposedly can do Kamehameha) same with Grandpa Gohan. But they proabaly couldn't make it very strong. Since Goku's very first kamehameha just blew a tire off of a car and damaged the back of it moderatly.And it took Roshi 50 years to master.
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Post by Mafioso11 on Feb 13, 2005 22:11:19 GMT -5
grandpa gohan's kamehameha was actually about as strong as goku's when he came to earth for a day (at the time). i bet the ox king's was about the same as well (if he knew how to do it).
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Post by StoneTitan on Feb 14, 2005 11:51:24 GMT -5
Roshi! I don't belive its chi lvl the punching machine shows. I would say Hercule might have a Chi lvl on something between 25 and 70 nothing more.
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Post by SuperTien on Feb 17, 2005 18:19:08 GMT -5
Yeah I agree Hercule's pwl level should be in the around 70 ki. But that is just on his fighting and phsical strength , not his ki , since he never learns to use it.
Master Roshi is awesome, he blew up ox kings montain ,blew up the moon, and parted the sea with kamehameha (for practice). He also crumbled a giant boulder with just a punch. In dbz movie Earths Strongest he took the 3 biotech warriors for a couple minutes but he couldn't take all 3 at the same time , (he could have taken maybe one ,for sure if he went super and hit one with a super kamehameha.) But for sure he could defend him self againtst one. he shot a kamehameha at the yellow fat one but it was very elastic and durable so the kamehameha flew back at master Roshi in a ball.
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Post by Iso_Gogeta on Apr 13, 2005 16:39:11 GMT -5
Hercule will cry for"MOOOMMMYYY" but he will recieve no answer, so ofcourse roshi will win.
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