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Post by rjxsapri® on Apr 6, 2005 23:08:39 GMT -5
I think ur already the mod of that board man...
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Post by Derek on Apr 6, 2005 23:52:17 GMT -5
Yeh but do i have power to delete topics to the recycle bin?
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Eris
Super Saiyan 2
Vote for insanity - You know it makes sense
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Post by Eris on Apr 7, 2005 0:18:11 GMT -5
*Sighs* Ok, now that we're on this subject I'll give out my opinion. This place is boring, the only reason I keep coming back is because of 2 people. It has no spark, no life at all. It has a lot of USELESS threads and posts that they really don't have to be there. People make threads about their personal life here, when they shouldn't because this is really not the place for it. It has more than 2,000 users and like 35 post, 15 daily. Some of those users should be deleted, and so what if the forum looks "puny" it would be better to just have the members that do post and take out those that are just used to fill space. Another thing is the stupid daily drama and......For a staff position? Or because some can't stand some...Comments. That's just really pathetic. This is just online and I think some people mix real life with a cybernetic one and get a too upset over things they shouldn't.....Some have issues with others and bash at each other in the forum when this is NOT the place for it, if you want to do that, PM/IM that person and tell them or just ignore them, simple as that. And like I mentioned in another thread, some users 'insult' others or make them feel bad because differences in what THEY like. Others insult them because of the way they 'act here' and so many other things. If you want a "better" forum all of that stuff needs to change and every member has to help. Some of the members here, sometimes I feel like they're really not themselves and just are that way here to make themselves seem 'smart', 'mature' and to try to fit in. And maybe most of the times they're not even like that, this is supposed to be a place to hang and have fun and meet new people, not to make to try and make others think you're in some way better than the rest or somehow 'more' important. I prefer someone liking me how I really am than liking me because of they way they think I am. And in a forum, every decision the leader makes should be consulted with it's members and see how they like it, not just do it and be all "If you like it good, if not deal with it" because that's just not how it should be. We all need to have a say in it and give our opinions, because after all, we are the ones that dedicate part of our lives to be here, I think we deserve at least a say in what the leader wants to do. And one thing that bothers me is, when in a thread they start getting off topic they get mad at you because you're off topic, it makes it seem like a stiff place where we only talk about [Subject] and just [Subject] (Think about a class you loathe, and then if you could just talk about that class and ONLY that class). I think it's ok to get a lil off topic but not endless pages of incoherent babble. Anyways, I think I missed some other things, but the post is too long. I also think the Admin. board should be just for Administrators and G-mods, the rest have nothing to do there. And please, let's act like a family instead of a bunch of strangers in one place, and let's try to be more understanding and supportive even with those we don't like that much. (Rofl, I spent so much time writing this post that I have no idea of what ya'll are/were currently talking XP)
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Post by rjxsapri® on Apr 7, 2005 0:26:28 GMT -5
Eris for member of the Month!!!!!!!!!! And probably, Nobel Peace Price too... Seriously, this place has been feeling lately not like a place to have fun, but like a place when a lot of people come to try to show off more than the others....that's what creates conflict because everyone wants to be the best and be the one who's right... And yes, we can't be so stiff...it's stressing, and it hurts your spine... BTW, Eris...you talk so much the way I INTEND to talk but that I can't because of my language limitations and my lazyness...but you said the things I wanted to say so perfectly that when I look at that post, I feel like I wrote it...
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Post by Derek on Apr 7, 2005 0:30:32 GMT -5
*Sighs* Ok, now that we're on this subject I'll give out my opinion. This place is boring, the only reason I keep coming back is because of 2 people. It has no spark, no life at all. It has a lot of USELESS threads and posts that they really don't have to be there. People make threads about their personal life here, when they shouldn't because this is really not the place for it. It has more than 2,000 users and like 35 post, 15 daily. Some of those users should be deleted, and so what if the forum looks "puny" it would be better to just have the members that do post and take out those that are just used to fill space. Another thing is the stupid daily drama and......For a staff position? Or because some can't stand some...Comments. That's just really pathetic. This is just online and I think some people mix real life with a cybernetic one and get a too upset over things they shouldn't.....Some have issues with others and bash at each other in the forum when this is NOT the place for it, if you want to do that, PM/IM that person and tell them or just ignore them, simple as that. And like I mentioned in another thread, some users 'insult' others or make them feel bad because differences in what THEY like. Others insult them because of the way they 'act here' and so many other things. If you want a "better" forum all of that stuff needs to change and every member has to help. Some of the members here, sometimes I feel like they're really not themselves and just are that way here to make themselves seem 'smart', 'mature' and to try to fit in. And maybe most of the times they're not even like that, this is supposed to be a place to hang and have fun and meet new people, not to make to try and make others think you're in some way better than the rest or somehow 'more' important. I prefer someone liking me how I really am than liking me because of they way they think I am. And in a forum, every decision the leader makes should be consulted with it's members and see how they like it, not just do it and be all "If you like it good, if not deal with it" because that's just now how it should be. We all need to have a say in it and give our opinions, because after all, we are the ones that dedicate part of our lives to be here, I think we deserve at least a say in what the leader wants to do. And one thing that bothers me is, when in a thread they start getting off topic they get mad at you because you're off topic, it makes it seem like a stiff place where we only talk about [Subject] and just [Subject] (Think about a class you loathe, and then if you could just talk about that class and ONLY that class). I think it's ok to get a lil off topic but not endless pages of incoherent babble. Anyways, I think I missed some other things, but the post is too long. I also think the Admin. board should be just for Administrators and G-mods, the rest have nothing to do there. And please, let's act like a family instead of a bunch of strangers in one place, and let's try to be more understanding and supportive even with those we don't like that much. (Rofl, I spent so much time writing this post that I have no idea of what ya'll are/were currently talking XP) I think that is the best post i have seen in this topic. Really i couldnt have said it better myself. Like it or not, the site is dieing slowly, just look around the same people post in the same topics. Very few new threads are made. Shes right about the 2000+ members and 15-20 post..Thats horrible I think that we should remake the board, template, buttons, banner, hacks everything. It will make it more interesting and attract more members. [Maybe a board clean out should be do, delete everything, why not?] But yeh i could make buttons, and a banner, and some nice gradients, if you are all so serious about making the board better. All you have to do is say the word. This board needs life, we all know it. Now...lets do something about it.
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Post by rjxsapri® on Apr 7, 2005 0:43:10 GMT -5
All you have to do is say the word. What word.....................NIPPLES?!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D *runs* J/k man...really, I wouldn't mind if you help us with those changes...and I would thank you if they help us get more active members.
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Post by Derek on Apr 7, 2005 0:49:16 GMT -5
Oh I am positive it will help this site get more members. It has looked the same since i joined a year ago lol. I think its time for change and I'll help with the graphics part GET AT ME NEO!
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Eris
Super Saiyan 2
Vote for insanity - You know it makes sense
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Post by Eris on Apr 7, 2005 0:52:43 GMT -5
*Coughs* See what I said about Rjxsapri being naughty ..... Anyways, yeah...We need more active members here and that forum clean out idea doesn't sound bad. A new beginning Sounds fun But I'm sure some wouldn't like it because of their post count.
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Post by Derek on Apr 7, 2005 0:56:15 GMT -5
Anyways, yeah...We need more active members here and that forum clean out idea doesn't sound bad. A new beginning Sounds fun But I'm sure some wouldn't like it because of their post count. LMAO post count...I dont care about post count. Its just a number, but your right too many people will complain.
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Post by Neo Vegeta on Apr 7, 2005 0:59:55 GMT -5
Very well put, Eris. I do apologize for doing everything so sudden and not consulting everyone, but I just thought it through wrong. I figured I would go ahead and get everything done with as little drama and pain as possible, it kinda backfired, and it kinda didnt. I also should have made myself a little clearer about the warnings/bannings. When I said we need to be more strict, I didn't mean hall monitor strictness What I meant was, those that actually deserve to be banned, I.E. those that disrespect others, or endlessly spam, endless cursing, etc....THOSE are the people we should be more strict on, not those that just double post on accident, or something insignificant like that. I also want to address the issue of the admin board, since it seems to be a hot topic. This decision was partly because of the recycle bin, (Which i find to be kind of useless) and from talks with other members. I felt that the admin board being Staff Only was seperating the staff from the regular members in a way that wasnt necessary. As ST said above, we are volunteers, we don't get paid, so you have every right to see what we are talking about, good or bad. And personally, if we are discussing another member, we should do it in PMs or IMs. I will make a thread on if everyone wants the admin board to stay open or not. And If you guys want the admin board to be private, then that's how it will be. Again, I want to address another issue...staff. I know some of you think I have an alternative motive for the staff I picked, but I explain why I did already. True, it was sudden and the other staff were not consulted, but this was because I did not want to cause an arguement on "I'm better than he is! Why should I be cut?!" or something like that. Even Fluffy agrees that they're were too many staff. The fewer people in power, the better...because we all have learned what can happen, the hard way. I want to talk about those staff that were cut. I respect and love every single one of you members on this forum, because you are all people, and people have different opinions and beliefs, but as in real life, there are always people you disagree with....it just happens to be Fluffy, in my case....yes, mainly because of her beliefs and actions, but that did not determine my actions on why she was cut. Fluffy was the very first member on the forum, and is a good regular poster, as we all know. But...some of the things she says, even if jokingly, offend people greatly, and hurt their feelings sometimes....that is not the attitude of a staff member, staff are supposed to set the example of how one should act on the forum. I am not pointing Fluffy out here, I am just using her as an example. The present members that are on the staff now, was a decision that Kenny and I came to, they are all good level headed members that deserve the position *No, I am not saying that the staff that were cut aren't* I know it seemed like I was a bit harsh before, but like I said, I was trying to get everything done without making a big deal about it, and having as little drama as possible. If there is anything else you would like me or any other staff member to comment on, feel free to ask.
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Post by Derek on Apr 7, 2005 1:03:21 GMT -5
If there is anything else you would like me or any other staff member to comment on, feel free to ask. How about a new banner and some buttons Neo?
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Post by Neo Vegeta on Apr 7, 2005 1:06:19 GMT -5
How about a new banner and some buttons Neo? We are working on that right now, actually...as best as we can. If you want to help out, that would be great. I am not the best coder in the world *one of the worst actually*, So personally, I cant apply the changes, but our local coder...yet to be determind, can.
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Post by Little Syxx on Apr 7, 2005 1:08:27 GMT -5
(This post is moving too fast for my slow typing skills. Don't mind me if I seem a little behind on the topic. ) Would'nt getting rid of all the posts, the members of who don't post and changing the look just be temporary solutions? What if it helps attract new members but we are'nt really able to get some good and active posters to sign up and instead get stuck with more posters like the people who've been bringing down the forum. We'll eventually get stuck in the same situation we're in now again.
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Post by Derek on Apr 7, 2005 1:10:27 GMT -5
Ok yeh I will work on a nice banner, and some buttons for you tommorrow...I'll also look for a few hacks..
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Post by rjxsapri® on Apr 7, 2005 1:24:53 GMT -5
I think that reason for choosing the staff members you choose isn't valid...since some of the members that still have their position have said pretty offensive things about other people too...I don't want to say names, but if a rule is taken against one, it should be against all others equally......still...once again, I think the changes we DO need are the one's Eris suggested...that's what the forum really needs and what will make the forum be what I want it to be...
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