What's most important as storyline in the movie

[Earthenergy]

I made a new thread within in the discussion in 'two cents': What storylines must be in the liveaction movie and what is most important to tell for 4 or 5 live action movies of 3 or 4 hours that holds an dbz serie of 92 hours.

I suggest this:

1) the run for the strongest guy in tournements is not very major so also point 7 but this can be used for the building of strength of Goku and friends.
2) the history of Planet Vegeta with the escape of Goku and the hostile of Vegeta is major and must be in the storyline of Freeza
3) the story of Capsule Corperation is major and must be in
4) the adventures in the afterlive are not relevant if the live actionmovies not go beyond the Cell games to Majin Buu Saga.
5) the family storyline of Goku and Chi-Chi vs Vegata and Bulma is ofcourse super major
6) the character Piccalo and only his history on namek (not the history with Kami) is major
7) the 100% goodness of Goku with the drive to fight to become better so he can save the world on and on versus the proud and bright badness of Vegeta who always be second best and joints Goku for his own reasons must be the very red line in the movies.
8) the destroying of several planets by Freeza and his army is major
9) Master Roshi, Oolong, Puar and dinosaurs are sub story and may be skipped
10) The destroyng of the Red Army is major
11) the power levels are not major but de SSJ sublevels between 1 and 2 are major
12) the ginyu force is not major
13) the giant apes may in the 'two cent' way be skipped
14) the transforms of freeza may also be skipped
15) the desperate fight of Vegeta is very Major
16) the relation between Gohan and Piccolo can be major
17) Yamcha, Tien etc can be stay in or can be skipped Krillin must be in.

The power of the DBZ anime lay also in the way of telling the story. In the beginning it shall (must) be told by an storyteller (the people must step in the world) .There are very much scenes with thinking voices and doubtfull minds . The camera movements must be very exciting when the beams get away and the mountains get cracked and Goku escapes with fast flying etc...We got to be hit with this ride of action of never before scenes!!!!!!
There are also much Sergio Leone scenes (for a few dollars mores, the good bad and ugly and a fistfull of dollars) . Close ups of (as they step in) of feet or eyes.
Empteness of streets like in 'after 28 days'.
Scary scenes of murderings of Freeze victims wich must be an very bastard with much demon acts.
Its important that the public understands the problem and feel why Goku must standup to defend the Earth.

[DeLaRocha99]

Interesting...Very interesting...You made several good points...

We got another storyline-opinionated dbz fan, guys

[Krillin34]

The history is done by the good prominent personatges like Son Gokuh.

A good history is based on her principal prominent personages. If he does not have prominent personages and actions espectáculares. Good Skills of Combat.

A clear example another day, 3 hours of movie that was looking like a documentary on Carlo Magno's Life that a movie.

The prominent figures are so important as the movie in if. He(she) is more I he(she) would say that much more.

If he does not become boring and monotonous. He seems to see a documentary.

[FoxExecutive]

I have one major disagreement and that is leaving Master Roshi out. How else could Goku and Krillin learn to harness their power without a person to teach them? Leaving Roshi out would be a huge disappointment.

[Shinma_of Aries]

Earthenergy said:

I made a new thread within in the discussion in 'two cents': What storylines must be in the liveaction movie and what is most important to tell for 4 or 5 live action movies of 3 or 4 hours that holds an dbz serie of 92 hours.

I suggest this:

1) the run for the strongest guy in tournements is not very major so also point 7 but this can be used for the building of strength of Goku and friends.
2) the history of Planet Vegeta with the escape of Goku and the hostile of Vegeta is major and must be in the storyline of Freeza
3) the story of Capsule Corperation is major and must be in
4) the adventures in the afterlive are not relevant if the live actionmovies not go beyond the Cell games to Majin Buu Saga.
5) the family storyline of Goku and Chi-Chi vs Vegata and Bulma is ofcourse super major
6) the character Piccalo and only his history on namek (not the history with Kami) is major
7) the 100% goodness of Goku with the drive to fight to become better so he can save the world on and on versus the proud and bright badness of Vegeta who always be second best and joints Goku for his own reasons must be the very red line in the movies.
8) the destroying of several planets by Freeza and his army is major
9) Master Roshi, Oolong, Puar and dinosaurs are sub story and may be skipped
10) The destroyng of the Red Army is major
11) the power levels are not major but de SSJ sublevels between 1 and 2 are major
12) the ginyu force is not major
13) the giant apes may in the 'two cent' way be skipped
14) the transforms of freeza may also be skipped
15) the desperate fight of Vegeta is very Major
16) the relation between Gohan and Piccolo can be major
17) Yamcha, Tien etc can be stay in or can be skipped Krillin must be in.

The power of the DBZ anime lay also in the way of telling the story. In the beginning it shall (must) be told by an storyteller (the people must step in the world) .There are very much scenes with thinking voices and doubtfull minds . The camera movements must be very exciting when the beams get away and the mountains get cracked and Goku escapes with fast flying etc...We got to be hit with this ride of action of never before scenes!!!!!!
There are also much Sergio Leone scenes (for a few dollars mores, the good bad and ugly and a fistfull of dollars) . Close ups of (as they step in) of feet or eyes.
Empteness of streets like in 'after 28 days'.
Scary scenes of murderings of Freeze victims wich must be an very bastard with much demon acts.
Its important that the public understands the problem and feel why Goku must standup to defend the Earth.

I'm with you.There a things like the point that Fox made that's true but you made very important points clear.

I'm also in favor that Gokuh's development is shown gradually.

[Earthenergy]

Thank you...... I do my best. I wish for the very best of these movie(s)....It can (and must) be done right. I have seen so much movies go down...I'm frusterated sometimes when a hero go over the top by risking his live without an acceptabele reason. I hope it will not happen on this movie.

In my oppinion:
The score is also very very very important!! The score must give the movie an heart so that the emotions will be more expressed and more recognised by the public.

I hope that we will be kicked on all fronts (production, directing, story, screenplay, action, score, acting, art, special effects, sound effects, visual - sound editing, costume-makeup designs) with much recognising and much surpises.

In reaction on the suggesting of 'skipping' master Roshi:

I agree that, when the story of the movie sets in urlier, master Roshi must stay in. His role in the db sagas is absolute major.

When the movie starts from the Saiyen Saga, he can only be mentioned by the storyteller at the beginning of the movie.

So far as I have noticed has master Roshi in the DBZ serie only an X-rated comic book to handle.
With all respect. He's retired in the dbz series and the powers go far obove his emagine.
He made a few laughs and let Goku pickup his sunglasses with his 'instant transfusion' act in the Trunks/Cell Saga...........

[Shinma_of Aries]

well, you're rigth but we are talking about the begging when Gokuh and Kulilin where trained by him, but I get your point.

[McKlyde]

take this with all seriousness, but most of those ideas would make for one heck of a bad movie franchise, in my opinion that is, heres my take on each one.

1-the tenkai ichi budokai is the most major setting for the first third of the entire Dragonball story, which could stand alone as one movie EASILY

2-i agree, next

3-of course, its responsible for every bit of earths technology, duh, next

4-that is irrelevant since it was added for the anime, and fox only has rights for the origional manga story, next.

5- not super major, but its a nice contrast to all the fighting.

6- the story of the unkown namek, who became god and devil(who got reincarnated, then had his heart touched by an innocent young boy), got to reunite with his brotheren, and then became one again to save the planet he loves, that is one of the greatest stories within DB, and you want to scrap it cause ya dont like kami, shame on you sir.

7-true, but they must include the few times in his youth when his goodness was shaped, and compromised.

8-not as major as some of the things you wanted to downplay

9-hardly substory, they create an atmosphere for dragon world. and if you think the kamesen'nin is sub story, you need to be beaten down by 4 tenshinhans

10-yes it is, but I see this being changed from criminal militia to corrupt government special ops, that would make them so much more, big budget picturey.

11- the super saiyan levels in general are kinda corny when you take a step back... I mean really, I hope they work around it, so no one ever has to say a number when refering to a super saiyan. the transformations will still be there of course (1,2,3), just no sub levels(uss1, uss2, stupid). brute power level numbers are fine for the part of the story theyre actually in.

12- the ginyu force is a fresh breath of relief for what was otherwise a laugh free partof the series, they can be down played, but not cut if Planet Namek was a stand alone film.

13-then who killed granpa gohan? what was the hidden power that let goku kill demon king piccolo? theres no reason to cut it unless they trash a third of their source material, which they wont.

14- I agree, just have him go from 1 to 4 and let it be

15- so is battle with the RRA, piccolo, freeza, cell, buu,

16- can be and is

17-there supporting characters, theres no reason to cut supporing charactes willy nilly like that, it aint smart.


the power of the DB 'Z' anime is its fighting, the story telling takes a sharp spiral down the toilet in the midst of the cell arc.

people have to realise that the entire origional source material (the manga) story is in play, not just 'Z'. FOX will squeeze out every but of revenue it can get from the entire story, for a World Wide audience, not a handfull of american fanboys bred on Z.

[FoxExecutive]

Yep I agree. If they rely too much on fighting then only people who liek fighting movies will see this. You have to balance the story and fighting. Leaving out vital points as such will leave just a watered down version of the anime.

[BlackCoven]

I agree, I have seen some of the worst action movies of all time and my arguments are to prevent that from happening with one of my favorite anime's. I agree, that if done right, any story, even dbz can be done right but there has to be an explanation to why certain parts of the movie are left in and it needs to be a solid reasoning, not just "because." Someone commented to me:
How can you watch that sh*t? Its like they just get together and fight for no reason, thats all they do.
I just laughed since that does seem like some of it. Anyway, some good points mentioned above.

[Vegeta's Princess!]

Goku is! I think an important thing also is when Trunks comes from the future to tell them all about the andriods and save em all.

[Earthenergy]

Trunks story is very very major.
1) Trunks has all to do with the development of SSJ1e, SSJ1e2 to SSJ2
2) His killing of Freeza and the impression and frustration this make on Vegata. This drove Vegeta also to SSJ!!
3) The saving of Goku with the medicine from the future
4) Future Trunks caried the big secret of Vegeta and he has a major caracter in the Android/ Cell Saga's

I'm sorry that I didn't mentioned this before. Ofcourse youre right!! Its not logic to think that Trunks can be skipped. It was never in my mind.

[Vegeta's Princess!]

well at least someone thought of it

*looks in mirror and grins*